Suspects and Motives LARP 2007
From FiranMUX
This is the brainstorming list for larp characters, using the LARP 2007 Cast List for inspiration, combined with the Relationship Map LARP 2007 and the central Murder Mystery for LARP 2007.
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Key to Using This Page
Feel free to add ideas to any of the categories outlining why a certain character might have motive to kill either Hralib or Throgana, or what clues might lead other people to think that they had means or opportunity to do so. Be sure to use the Cast List and stamp your id after your idea.
Afterwards, Steph will go through the ideas and color them according to this chart:
- Grey means that the idea is not usable for some reason, usually indicated in parenthesis.
- Green means that the idea is great, and has been worked into the LARP.
- Orange means that the idea has potential but needs to be fleshed out more.
- Black means we're still thinking about it.
Shamibelians
Nobifa
Hralib's wife must be a suspect. Perhaps it was jealousy. Perhaps she wanted to be won by a new husband and none could defeat Hralib. Perhaps he had found out that she was taking herbs to prevent herself from getting pregnant with him, and thus, keeping the marriage from being totally official. Perhaps it was found that she was having an affair with Malentez Samiroon.
Malentez
Having an affair with Hralib's wife? Wanting him out of the way so that he could win her without challenge? (We know he's having the affair, we just don't know why that would give him a motive to kill Hralib.)(Steph)
He knew that Throgana was involved somehow with the Free Firan Republic,and wanted to make sure she couldn't go any further. Knowing about her nail biting issues, and not thinking about the fact his own plan to get rid of her AND the others working with her could take him down as well. (yapra) *This won't work. Throgana is a Shamibelian sympathizer, not involved with the Free Firan Republic.--Steph 22:16, 15 March 2007 (EDT)
He'd been planting information through Throgana for some time, even as she was playing him she was beginning to find it harder and harder to go against him. His slow working of training her subtly with slow seduction working. Unknowing that someone else was playing them both and set them up both to die even as they were both about to try and admit their knowledge to each other.) (yapra) *Throgana is famously loyal to Hralib, so I don't think this will work either. --Steph 22:17, 15 March 2007 (EDT)
Hralib's wife... yuck. She's not Malentez's type at all, but hey, when you want to get ahead in life sometimes you've got to do nasty things. A term that doubly-applies to this situation! And when this bitch is dead, and Hralib along with her, what a gas it will all be. See Malentez knows that Nobifa is a real scratching wildcat in the sheets, from firsthand experience, so the plot to slip a bottle of poisonous nail-polish on her table one night makes for a laugh out loud riot of Obala-loving chaotic potential. Course he'll have to stop seeing the she-beast, which is fine by him. Little does Malentez know however that it won't be Nobifa wearing the polish.--Headworms 16:08, 3 April 2007 (EDT) (This won't work because we've already decided that Malentez _is_ having an affair with the wife. Please be sure to consult the Timeline, the Main Mystery Page and the Master Document to see which decisions are already set in stone. --Steph 17:26, 3 April 2007 (EDT))
Scithvor
A halfie who had once been ridiculed by the Firan people, now not so much ridiculed, as pretty much ignored in his deeds. Finding himself being caught in at a turn point of choices. Does he help his firan people the ones who raised him even though he was treated with fear and disdain? To go back to the life he once knew and possibly go down in a blaze of glory for all halfies everywhere in his position? Or does he finally turn his back on his firan half and delve into giving up those secrets he knows about the Free Firan Republic and destroy that life from them forever.) (yapra) *Cool idea, but Schitvor isn't a haffie, so it's not going to work.--Steph 22:21, 15 March 2007 (EDT)
In his youth, Scithvor was a charmer. His military career was on the up-and-up and he had his eye on becoming a war lord one day. Good-looking (as Shamibelians go), talented and brave, he was set to be great ... except he was just too nice. Shortly before the occupation of Anarinuell, Scithvor was accused of falling in love with a slave and of being too sympathetic to Firans in general. Within Anarinuell, his reputation is terrible and, no longer a young man at all, he's desperate to find a way to reattain his former glory. He intends to prove he is not a Firan-lover, in part by shifting the blame to <Shamibelian Rival X> but also in part by being especially cruel to and intolerant of the Firan slaves. Still, Scithvor cannot help being strangely attached to <Firan Slave Girl X> and feels conflicted about this. In short, Scithvor wants to: clean up his reputation, redeem himself, resist the allure of Firan women, and if at all possible, become a war lord. (Shelly)
Scithvor likes abusing slaves, especially slaves that are not his own. So when he got hold of <One of Hralib's slaves>, and tortured him/her for information, what he discovered was the sort of salivating good news that a Shami needs to get ahead in life. Apparantly Throg asked for and received as a gift one of those scrolls that the Firan's collect, the giver being Hralib himself. Scithvor knows that Hralib had all that access to the Great Library, and is sure that no-good Firan Throgana duped the Mayor into giving her something important. He's got to know what it was, and decides the best way to find out is to poison the woman and randsom the antidote for the book.--Headworms 15:55, 3 April 2007 (EDT)
Ruffialo
The Master slaver has something he wants. Not just the woman he's been sleeping with but a couple of slaves who have information that he wants desperately to 'gleen' from them his own special way. But of course without proof he can't touch them. Then there's the land, all that land he's been wanting, but how else can he get it without just getting rid of the man? He can't control him and life would be so much simpler if there was someone in the position that was a bit more controlable. (Yapra) (Ruffialo has the reputation of being the 'nice' and unambitious war lord. This might need to be revamped in light of that, to work. --Steph 14:02, 2 April 2007 (EDT))
Ruffialo has never reached what he could have been, having been labeled soft by the Shamibelian society. But after getting intelligence that one or more of Hralib's slaves is part of some major rebel move, this usually easy-going warlord goes into action. Being unsure which of the mayor's slaves are the culprits(possibly even the highly favored Throgana being one herself), Ruffialo plots to destroy the rebellion attempt at the roots by seeing that all of Hralib's slaves are killed. That label of his serving as the perfect alibi, as noone with any sense would suspect him of killing Hralib.--Headworms 15:42, 3 April 2007 (EDT)
Firans
Jalil
Was always close to Throgana and was horrified at her seeming "brainwashing" about Hralib. He might have seen her behavior as a stain on the honor of his clan, and wanted her dead. (Steph)
The humilation is bareable. Like everything in just being a clan leader, its something that can be ignored. But Throgana was someone he not only respected but also had secretly had feelings for. Had wanted to protect even if it cost him his own life, so her not only folding under but also ending up being loyal to that master slaver? Was not only a betrayal to their clan and their people in general, but also a personal one to him. He'd wanted to give her his heart and her heart went to a monster. She had to go with her lover, there was no other way.) (yapra)
Throgana
Tired of being Hralib's slave and plaything. But as she is the unwitting killer of Hralib (the poison was mixed into her cosmetics, and painted unknowningly on her eyelids, her lips, and fingernails, which transferred to Hralib as she kissed and scratched him), and since he dies moments before she, she begins to draft a letter proclaiming her innocence and pointing the finger at the real killer. Of course all the while she's biting her nails, and killing herself. The letter does begin to put investigators on the right track as to finding more clues and setting the story straight, but Throgana dies while writing this letter. The real murderer comes to find Throgana and Hralib dead and adds to the letter, trying to further convolute the clues and make Throgana look guilty, even though her innocence is proclaimed right off. It might even name someone completely uninvolved, someone else the murder wishes to get out of the way, and therefore ends up being a more harmful clue than helpful one. (Zhara)
Empyrean
The son of two clan leaders, this noble turned slave couldn't help but want to work his way from being humilitated to being free. And using that traitor Throgana was the perfect ploy, having used the last few years to not only secure his place making people think that he'd finally folded. He'd just been learning, studying the routines, and then figuring out who would make the best scape goats. All he wants is out, and he'll step on who ever he has to to acquire that.) (yapra)
Katriana
Jalil killed Katriana's husband and Puria's parents, now it's time for vengence. The two women plot together in using Throgana to kill Hralib, while leaving clues behind designed to incriminate Jalil. Will they get their long waited revenge? --Headworms 22:42, 15 March 2007 (EDT)
( 1 : She was a Manosik, she never knew if her family was alive or not. She saw Rasha once and Arika once. But they were sold to different families. It was then she saw Throgana standing with the main slave master. What she thought she saw was throgana giving him information on all those that she knew about. She never really found out for sure, but she worked out anyways how to get rid of them both. Using the 'common' womans vanity against her as well as the fact that the master slaver seemed to consider her a favorite. Men are so predictable. (yapra)
Puria LARP 2007
Jalil killed Katriana's husband and Puria's parents, now it's time for vengence. The two women plot together in using Throgana to kill Hralib, while leaving clues behind designed to incriminate Jalil. Will they get their long waited revenge? --Headworms 22:42, 15 March 2007 (EDT)
Sabasian LARP 2007
For most of his life this halfie was treated like dirt by the Firans. Now a rival of Hralib has been whispering in his ear that if Sabs manages to kill off the Governor, he'll be placed incharge of a group of Firan slaves. Oh sweet revenge. Now the roles have turned and it's Sabasian's chance to give as good as he got. Assuming he can keep from getting caught. --Headworms 22:42, 15 March 2007 (EDT)
Zaridos
One of the free firan republic, and still considers himself a prince, after all he WAS strong enough to not only keep from being captured, but also strong enough to use his own family members to get information from the slavers. And even if it meant framing some of his own people for the betterment of the entire city than so be it. He was already making people think that Throgana was completely and totally in love with her master slaver, she was doing it for him, for the things he whispered to her in private. But like so much he's been saying it was so that he could prove once again that HE was the strongest and would be the one to lead the firan people back into the city and freedom. No matter who it costs.) (yapra) *The story is set in occupied Anarinuell. Every Firan has to be a slave, or they'd be arrested as soon as they were seen. It's possible that Zaridos could be an infiltrator and no one knows--that might be an angle to pursue, if maybe he's traded places with Lianos. But otherwise this won't work if he wasn't captured. --Steph 22:25, 15 March 2007 (EDT)
Ladonna
( 1 : The things they make her do! She was once one of THE most saught out women in all the city for her talents in singing and dancing! And now? Now??? Scrubbing pots, being a general grunt worker? Dirty work? Oh the horror of it all! And to top it off for as long as it took her to get married they hung her husbands head up on a pike for everyone to see! His HEAD! But when the man in the shadows came to me with that poison, and with his plan? She knew he was one of her own kind, through the only name she ever got from him was 'Silas'. She knew the idea would work. She had the way to get close to Throgana, the wench who seemed to think she was SOOO much better than anyone else cause she was the master slavers favorite. Not like having one of those things touch you is a good thing. But there's no saying Silas will make it out alive... right? Maybe an accident? You never know what could happen in war.)(yapra) 2 : She wanted to be the favorite to the master slaver. Her singing and dancing, she even learned that ugly language of theirs and wrote songs in it! Her dancing saught out and yet she always made sure he was there to see and know she was dancing for HIM. But he chose Throgana. He wouldn't touch her, he wouldn't choose her at all. But he didn't mind lending her out. She couldn't say no, they were stronger and she hadn't figured out how she was going to get out yet. But she did know one thing, Throgana was going to pay, and so was he.) (yapra)
Akiva
She knew the Free Firan Republic was strlil going strong, and while she was working her way through the Vettle family trying to secure her position and placement so that she could better find information she reealized there was a major snag. The Master Slaver's wife was doing everything she could to make sure that the Vettle family ended up in some sort of trouble. And always it was pointed back to the masters wife. The more trouble this family went through the more likely the slaves would be killed before she found the information that the FFR needed. And for that, she would need to take care of the ones at the top of that other family to make sure that they stayed away from them.) (yapra)
Yvette
Everyone knows that few people know the law like Yvette does. Firan law, and Shamibelian law. Infact it's not uncommon for some of the less powerful Shamibelians to secret get advice from the woman in matters of law. Such was the case with Nobifa, when she discovered Hralib dead in the Temple of Zin. Understanding that if a Shamibelian master is murdered on property being cleared, it's considered haunted and forfeit to the state. Pevifa owns that property, so it's good for Nobifa for the body to be found there, and Pevifa had plans for the Great Arch area that would have seriously hampered plans for the Rebellion. Yvette moves quicky, to eliminate a problem down the road.--Headworms 23:51, 8 April 2007 (EDT)
Other Possible Characters
Omiak
( 1 : During his time as a Firanosian priest, he taught peace before violence, he taught unity before separation. And even now, when everything was against them, he could keep his secret love for a single halfie woman a secret forever. His wife long since dead, he had given his heart and his blood for this woman, but knew it would never be. He had to get free even if it meant framing her for the murders he had to commit to get his people out of here.) (yapra)
Taleo
( 1 : He was once known as the Lord Viceroy, now he was the master slavers favorite toy to pick on for when it came to showing just how he could break even the strongest. But he'd made a list. A list that was months in coming, a list of slaves he 'thought' had turned loyal to the goat monster, and other 'goats' he thought just needed to die. Of course he'd never talked about or shown anyone this list, or they might point out that the list was one of a deranged man one too many times broken. But it had to start somewhere and they were the perfect pair. They wouldn't be the last though... he'd see to that. The gods needed more blood to clean the stain off their city and off their people. He would be the gods hand, he would save the righteous and get rid of anyone who was merely someone who added to the stain. Firan.. or goat alike. He would cleanse them all.) (yapra) (Taleo's skull is being used as a cup, so this won't work. --Steph 21:56, 8 April 2007 (EDT))
Tivana
( 1 : They killed her whole family. They took her children and killed them. She was never really quite.. . 'there' to begin with. But when they took her away on griffon back after making her roll in the blood of her family. She knew she'd never quite be alone then and soon it would be their blood that would be covering her hands. Having found Throgana trying time aftyer time to find a way to get free she emplored throgana to think of the betterment of her people and what sacrificing herself would do. If it got rid of this master that so many were held under. There were others sure, but this one was a good start and maybe it would quiet the voices.) 2 : Most people thought her a flake, but what they didn't know was she'd worked out with Zaridos, Adan and Empyrean to get captured on purpose. No one would suspect someone as weird as her. Never quite breakable but fun to play with, and just a lil off kilter enough that no one really payed attention when she was around. Having been taught how to understand the language so she was always taking mental notes. It was the royals plan and what ordert to get rid of the strongest opposition in. Andf given that women and a slaves are the most subjucated of the peoples, why not use one of both classes to get things rolling? ANd then point the finger to the master slavers main rival. The war lords family. (yapra)
Gilin
Gilin, the daughter of the famous gangster Jazayeri, has always been a feisty woman to say the least -- a feisty whore, and now a feisty slave. As far as she's concerned, an occupied Anarinuell isn't much different than a waller-run Anarinuell, and she's out for trouble. Although she is <Shamibelian X's> love slave, she is also a thief. She takes pride in stealing things and relocating them, not because she wants the things she takes, but rather because she likes causing confusion. It's her own little way of thumbing her nose at her master. So far, she hasn't been caught yet, but since the death of Hralib, she's realized that she has in her hands <important prop> which could possibly prove the identity of Hralib's killer. Now, what is a girl to do? (Shelly)
ORSATOS IDEAS
- Orastos.... he's good at teaching stuff's. Harlib found out that Orastos was not only teaching the younger of the slaves, but also learning a bit faster than people had originally thought when it came to how they ran their money as well as their language so he was finding out too much. Hralib was going to have him killed, but its thought maybe Orasatos got to him first? (Yapra)
- Orsatos being that he was one of Hralib's slaves as well, knew more about the closeness between Throgana and the 'master' more so than anyone? Possibly because of the fact that Throgana used to talk to him all the time, but recently stopped, as all her free time was taken up with her 'master' and making him happy? He got wind of something he thought they were planning (Maybe because his old mind put two and two together and came up with six)..So he'd thought he might need to do something about it, even writing in his journal about it that he kept hidden that maybe disappears later so it implicates him as a suspect. (Yapra)
- Orastos.... he's good a building/finance stuff's. Harlib found out that Orastos was slowly siphoning stenis away from his master some how to try and work into being able to work his way to 'freedom' persay. Hralib found out and the only way he could keep himself from ending up killed was to supposedly kill him? (yapra)
General Ideas
- A once powerful Firan is filled with bitterness at his/her new place in life. Hateful and jealous of Throgana's favored state, they poison her nails, knowing the woman chews at them. But when the woman's sexual antics also lead to the death of the Governor... oh boy. --Headworms 22:55, 15 March 2007 (EDT)
- Priest of Obala -- Believing that he too has the power to raise the dead as some Shamibelian priests have had in the past, the priest of Obala plots a scheme to have the great governer killed and then resurect the man, ensuring fame and glory. But Obala has a dark sense of humor, and when the priest's secret resurection attempt fails... how can he keep from being found out? --Headworms 22:55, 15 March 2007 Loved this and awarded him for it.Steph 00:00, 2 April 2007
- Physically Weak Shami who could not best Hralib in a legal challenge (Connie)
- Jealous slave who wanted Throgana out of the way (Connie)
- FFI agent who considered Throgana expendable in the name of the cause (Connie)
- Wife who wanted him dead without having to rely on someone to make a challenge (Connie)
- A shrewd Shami wife, knowing that her husband could become governor if Hralib is dead, sets up the killing; also making sure that the couple die on the lands of another rival. Little does she know however, that the rival found the bodies before the guards, and moved the bodies onto the her own lands. --Headworms 22:55, 15 March 2007 (EDT)
- Shami who wants to kill all the Firans and knows Hralib was too 'soft' on them (Connie)
- The Free Firan Republic is planning an attack to take back Anarinuell. Might not the rebel slaves have tried to kill Hralib in order to sew confusion and discord and make the city more vulnerable to attack? (Steph)
- The slaves mounted a failed escape plan in which they tried to kill Hralib. But of course, it was not them who did the final deed. (Steph)
- A Shamibelian Man had challenged Hralib to a contest of eating spicy food. For Shami men, this is a matter of pride. Might he not be under suspicion for poisoning Hralib's bowls? (Steph)
- A slave was caught by Hralib for forging permits. If turned in, this slave would be killed. Thus, they had motive to kill Hralib. (Steph)
- Hralib revealed a written secret of another Shamibelian (a huge taboo in Shamibelian society) and did not want to seek redemption. To keep Hralib from finding out, they had him killed. (Steph)
- A certain Shamibelian Man was known for particularly violent raids in which he accidentally killed other Shamibelians. He was exiled from Ellish for this, and was trying to redeem himself in Anarinuell. But was Hralib's murder a raid gone bad and covered up? (Steph)
- Hralib recently acquired a new slave at auction, tearing him/her away from his/her spouse. Might not the spouse seek revenge? (Steph)
- Shamibelian male who wants to wed Hralib's daughter, but Hralib is preventing it. (Steph)
- The body was found under the Great Marble Arch of the Temple Grounds, which was being cleared out for Pevifa. This, of course, leads to speculation that Hralib may have been murdered by "Firan religious zealots" who were angry about the desecration of their sacred path and holy monuments.--Steph 22:55, 15 March 2007 (EDT)
- Throgana, having once been given the option of coming into the FFI knew too much. Howevrer, up to this point she'd kept her mouth shut on what she knew and who was in the group. Her closeness that had come with her master however ended up whether she liked it or not bringing her in as a member in the group. And as such. Expendable for their cause. (Yapra)
- Jalil, Zaridos, Torianos, Akiva, Ladonna, Emma. Such an unlikely group of companions and yet somehow they all came together when they were captured. They couldn't help but notice how quickly Throgana took to her master, and the loyalty that couldn't help but show its way through. To make matters worse he was one of the main obsticles between their freedom and regaining the city. Jalil's the one who took it the worst for some reason, growling under his breath more often than not about 'betrayal'. While Zaridos just looked at her as he looked at any halfie, and to him she was dead, even though he didn't know her well, he knew her name and that was enough. Akiva knew Throgana the best though, and seeing her slide up to that master as if he were all that mattered was enough to make her sick. But at the same time she couldn't just believe that her friend wouldn't able to be saved, that maybe the Shami had merely managed to convince her how life 'could' be with him. Jalil was the first to spit out an idea, a way to use throgana against her 'master'. A way to frame her for it, and make sure that she went right along with him. While Zaridos came up with the idea on who's land to make sure they ended up on, so that not only would the 'master' pay, as well as the traitor, but that family in general would end up with the stigma of the death, and suspicion would go on them as well. From what he had been able to learn of how they ran their society, they would lose their land in the process. Akiva just took note of all of this, making sure that anthing that was written down had copies that she stashed away. Having never really liked Zaridos, a reason to be able to cast suspicion or his involvement in the actual doing would be a good way to get rid of him for when the city came back under firan control. Emma, being as young as she was, was the one who was easily able to gleen information needed for them under her 'sweet and innocent' guise, as well as her closeness to Throgana to be able to get information that would normally 'not' be able to be discussed between 'proper ladies'. While she also is the one who was able to get the added 'nail polish' made and then given to Jalil to give to Ladonna so it could be given to her 'friend' to use on her master. While Ladonna's 'talents' of being such a consumate actress not only got her close to the 'master' several times, but also managed to get her closer to Throgana to help with the planting of the paint used to 'enhance' her beauty while kill them both. Ladonna, having not wanted anyone between her and her wish for power when things came back to 'normal' used anything she could to try and get rid of Throgana, including filling Jalil's head with lies of whispered words of love and hatred of the Firan people between 'gana and the 'master'. Akiva wasn't blind though, she kept note of everything, including ladonna's involvement. Another life that to her way of thinking, wouldn't be missed if it was lost in the regaining of the city. Keeping copies and making note of everything, even going so far as to find something with Ladonna's handwriting and try and copy it for the usage of keeping a 'journal' of her activities. That of course could be left for someone to find later. (Yapra)
- Sabasian (Or any other played male halfie with Firan upbringing), Zaridos, Jalil : An unlikely trio, but beginning to be called the 'Shadowed Trio' amongst whispering servants. The three came together with an unlikely plan to not only over throw the now controlling people, but to get rid of them once and for all. Sabasian, ashamed of his heritage longed for the Firan people to believe that he had nothing to do with the over throwing of his peoples government. No matter how many times he'd had his life threatened, no many the times he'd had to stay in hiding, he knew they were still part of who he was. The only way to see through to his family, his father and all the others being freed was to help bring the Shami's down from the inside. And that included putting his trust and in essense blind faith and trust in two men who had on numerous occassions before the over throwing called for his punishment or death. While Jalil, angry at Throgana's betrayal, and glaring daggers at her 'master' any time they passed them was more than willing to drag who ever he needed to to make the shami pay as well as 'free' his beloved Throgana once and for all. Even if it meant dragging his daughter into it, despite the orders of no contact. And who better to frame for it all but the stupid halfie scum who Jalil /still/ believes had something to do with the fall of their fair city. Even if it was small, Jalil just /knows/ even beyond the madness he is constantly trying to fight at bay, that Sabasian had some hand in it all. Zaridos, still proud was used to being beaten on a daily basis, beaten within an inch of his life only to be brought back so that he could be healed and it could be done all over again. His pride won't take that for long, and despite their differences' seeing Jalil's anger he saw a way to kill two birds with one stone. Not only to use his resources to get rid of the major obstacles in their path of the plan, but also how to make it look like Jalil was at fault, so he was one obstacle that wouldn't have to be dealt with any longer once things were back to normal. (yapra)
- Empyrean was a lord whom had just begun his life. Having taken it to study under the most honored lords in all of the city. However, when everything was suddenly captured, he knew that he had to do something. What he didn't expect was the night that everything happened, the night the city fell, that he himself would have been responcible for the death of one of the Firan peoples most honored warriors (Pick one of the dead noble men). He blamed Sabasian for his arrow flying wrong, his name having been called just as he was letting go of the arrow, to let it fly. Not having seen the Lord stepping up to slay the Shami with his sword that night. Knowing only that in his mind Sabasian had purposely distracted him, and because of that he had killed one of his own, one that might have saved them. Aside from that, he had lied and told people he had seen a halfie do it. That he hadn't gotten there in time to stop it. Someone else knew the truth though, they had been there and seen it. What better info to use against a Lord who wants so badly to prove himself? (Yapra)
- Anorna has always wanted to go back to her master, having realized her mistake within days of being with the Firan people. But now that she's back she struggles to try and remember details she never quite understood before to be able to prove her loyalty. Knowing she may end up beaten if she mis remmebers, what she finds out about the hatred of Jalil to Throgana may be the best thing to use for her own master's going up in the ranks and getting rid of those in his path. ANd showing her own loyalty in the process. (Yapra)
- Ladonna had always strived for riches and power before. Making sure she didn't marry under her, and with someone who knew the concept and need for money. BUt then /they/ came. Not only spoiling all of her plans, but in a way giving her the key to being able to put more day dreams to fruitition. Thats when she began to watch and saw way too many little details than she knew she was supposed to. The question was, who could she pin the info on and what could she get out of it in the process. Getting rid of people in her way as well as making sure her future was set may still be in her future if she played her cards right. (Yapra)
- The killer never planned to kill either Throgana or Hralib! Throgana had an object or information that the killer needed, and planned to poison the woman and offer the antidote to get what he/she wanted. --Headworms 15:59, 3 April 2007 (EDT) (We already know that the killer intended to kill Throgana and why. --Steph 17:30, 3 April 2007 (EDT))
- Someone tried to zap Hralib with the medallion. (Norik's idea)
